Community enthusiasts, staunch supporters of the hosts, folks on the left, folks on the right and people who love a good debate – your wait is over. The “Amos and Abdul…Punch Counter-Punch” show is here.
Amos Brown, Recorder columnist and host of “Afternoons with Amos” on WTLC–AM (1310) and Abdul-Hakim Shabazz, political commentator, attorney and also a Recorder columnist together host “The Amos and Abdul Show” which airs Thursdays at 11 p.m. and Sundays at 6 p.m. on LeSEA Broadcasting Network.
From mall violence to charter schools and even national topics such as the gun debate, Brown and Shabazz will participate in this boxing-themed show and discuss their philosophies on relevant issues.
Both men are well known for unapologetically sharing their opinions, mostly over the airwaves of radio, but now audiences will be able to see Shabazz, who identifies with Republican views, and Brown, associated with Democratic views, go head to head.
“I think radio would do them justice but television is such a powerful medium and no better place to show them,” said Kelly Vaughn, creator and executive director of the show.
Vaughn has been waiting almost 10 years for her concept to come to fruition. She believes due to their passionate, opposite viewpoints, love of knowledge and desire for an honorable community, Brown and Shabazz were perfect for this show.
“To me it just seemed natural,” Vaughn said. “There was a time when there was even name calling. I thought of them as on-air enemies. Why not bring them together?”
The Amos and Abdul show is a 30-minute program that will consist of four “rounds” of civil debate with humor peppered in. During the first three rounds, the men will discuss hot topics and oftentimes will have guests on the show. The final round will be about an issue they agree on. This show is similar to “Crossfire,” a current events debate TV show that once aired on CNN.
“Our show is like that, but we’re actually intellectually honest,” joked Shabazz.
While the show may appear to be one filled with drama, snide comments and mud slinging, the purpose of the show is to allow viewers to respectfully see both sides of the story. This will not be Tyson versus Holyfield, Crips versus Bloods or the Hatfields going up against the McCoys.
“If you listen to what the president said in the State of the Union speech, he was trying to reach out and find common ground with those who disagree with him. In this country, if there are different sides of an issue, people don’t talk to one another,” said Brown. “If I’m true to my words in the Recorder about lack of leadership in Indianapolis because different groups aren’t talking to each other, then I’d be a hypocrite if I passed up this opportunity.”
“Not all African-Americans think alike,” added Shabazz. “And you can disagree without being disagreeable.”
Vaughn said believe it or not Shabazz and Brown have wonderful chemistry together. Both men have really defined themselves in the community and are considered bold, fearless and secure in their viewpoints.
Brown has been in and is a strong supporter of Black media for over 20 years. He said he’s a registered Democrat and considers himself progressive. Many view him as a champion for the community at large.
“I don’t buy into the argument that poor and working class people are not as hard working, patriotic and want the best for their family as everybody else,” said Brown.
Shabazz, who is an attorney and political contributor, considers himself a moderate conservative who believes the less government, the better.
“When people talk about spending money, my red flag goes up because that money comes from my pocket and I work too hard to give it away,” said Shabazz.
He believes Blacks should “stop whining” and realize today, they have opportunities not afforded to their ancestors.
Viewers can expect a debate with meaty viewpoints, but can also watch to be enlightened. The hosts don’t expect to completely change people’s minds about issues but hope the show helps people listen to a different perspective, challenge their beliefs and learn about the issues in their community.
“We’re so excited,” said Vaughn. “Lots of people from both sides have been wanting this. This is definitely going to put them at the forefront of politics in Indy.”
